From greg.j.kazz at jpl.nasa.gov  Fri Oct  1 00:43:12 2021
From: greg.j.kazz at jpl.nasa.gov (Kazz, Greg J (US 312B))
Date: Fri, 1 Oct 2021 00:43:12 +0000
Subject: [SLS-CC] Draft Minutes of SLP-C&S WG joint telecon held Sept 30 2021
Message-ID: <04A44B5F-04AD-40F6-B260-32C9CC1462B8@jpl.nasa.gov>

Dear SLP and C&S WG members,

Attached please find my draft meeting minutes of our TIM held today.
Please inform me if you have any corrections or updates to these minutes.
Thank you all for the great progress we made as a result of this telecon.

Best regards,
Greg

Greg Kazz
Principal Engineer
Technical Group Supervisor,
PSSE/EEISE/PPSE (312B)
Jet Propulsion Laboratory
4800 Oak Grove Dr., M/S 301-490
Pasadena, CA 91109
1+(818)393 6529(voice)
1+(818)393 6871(fax)
email: greg.j.kazz at jpl.nasa.gov

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From Andrea.Modenini at esa.int  Fri Oct  1 12:46:26 2021
From: Andrea.Modenini at esa.int (Andrea.Modenini at esa.int)
Date: Fri, 1 Oct 2021 14:46:26 +0200
Subject: [SLS-CC] Draft Minutes of SLP-C&S WG joint telecon held Sept 30
 2021
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A couple of comments of mine (minor)


Regards


ESA - European Space Agency
Ph.D. Andrea Modenini
TT&C Communications Systems Engineer 
TT&C and PDT Systems & Techniques Section (TEC-EST)
RF Systems Division
ESTEC
Keplerlaan 1, PO Box 299
NL-2200 AG Noordwijk, The Netherlands
andrea.modenini at esa.int | www.esa.int
T +31 71 56 53439, M +31 6 484 56 527



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Dear SLP and C&S WG members,
 
Attached please find my draft meeting minutes of our TIM held today.
Please inform me if you have any corrections or updates to these minutes.
Thank you all for the great progress we made as a result of this telecon.
 
Best regards,
Greg
 
Greg Kazz
Principal Engineer
Technical Group Supervisor,
PSSE/EEISE/PPSE (312B)
Jet Propulsion Laboratory
4800 Oak Grove Dr., M/S 301-490
Pasadena, CA 91109
1+(818)393 6529(voice)
1+(818)393 6871(fax)
email: greg.j.kazz at jpl.nasa.gov 
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From greg.j.kazz at jpl.nasa.gov  Fri Oct  1 18:19:51 2021
From: greg.j.kazz at jpl.nasa.gov (Kazz, Greg J (US 312B))
Date: Fri, 1 Oct 2021 18:19:51 +0000
Subject: [SLS-CC] Final meeting minutes of Sept 30 TIM between SLP & CS WG
Message-ID: <EDFAEE31-AC9E-4E89-AA68-36D0E444BD72@jpl.nasa.gov>

Dear SLP, SDLS, and C&S WG,

Please see the URL below which contains the final joint meeting minutes of the TIM held on Sept. 30, 2021 between the C&S and the SLP WG which discussed two major issues – 1) coherence in our PIDs to the SLS AD on the review of the latest proposed changes to the  SLE return and forward services. Most of these changes concerned the addition of variable length frames to the space to ground link along with how the SLE forward and SLE ROCF services handle the SDLS FSR.

There are two files in this directory. A final version as well as a red lined version (V2) which shows the comments I received incorporated into the draft version circulated yesterday.

https://cwe.ccsds.org/sls/docs/Forms/AllItems.aspx?RootFolder=%2Fsls%2Fdocs%2FSLS%2DSLP%2FMeeting%20Materials%2F2021%2FFall%2FSLE%20Forward%20and%20Return%20Link%20Service%20Issues&FolderCTID=0x012000439B56FF51847E41B5728F9730D7B55F&View=%7BAE8FB44C%2DE80A%2D42CF%2D8558%2DFB495ABB675F%7D

The minutes contain a list of action items for all three working groups for further discussion at the upcoming Autumn meetings.

Best regards,
Greg – SLP WG Chair


Greg Kazz
Principal Engineer
Technical Group Supervisor,
PSSE/EEISE/PPSE (312B)
Jet Propulsion Laboratory
4800 Oak Grove Dr., M/S 301-490
Pasadena, CA 91109
1+(818)393 6529(voice)
1+(818)393 6871(fax)
email: greg.j.kazz at jpl.nasa.gov

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From Andrea.Modenini at esa.int  Mon Oct  4 09:10:14 2021
From: Andrea.Modenini at esa.int (Andrea.Modenini at esa.int)
Date: Mon, 4 Oct 2021 11:10:14 +0200
Subject: [SLS-CC] C&S on 18th October - Agenda and inputs
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Dear all,
 please find enclosed the Agenda for the C&S WG meeting, to be held on 
18th October 2021, 14-18 (CET).
Inputs are in attachment, and (for records) can be found also at 
https://tinyurl.com/23m7e9vr 

Beyond inputs, we will have the following points:

1) Agency review RIDs
I'd like to do the RIDs disposition for 131.0 and 131.2 during this Fall 
meeting, for avoiding to call later a dedicated meeting.
Agency reviews will formally close on 8th October, thus leaving just 5 
working days for reviewing them. 
Since it is a limited time window, my proposal is that in then Fall 
meeting we will write dispositions, and then we will give some time for 
possible comments/objections, and obviously inform the RFM WG about the 
changes in the common book.
(RIDs will be available at  https://tinyurl.com/kdz5x5h7 )


2)  Working group discussion of Variable Length Frames 
Based on the outcomes of the SLP and C&S meeting we had on 30th September 
(see Greg's email on 01-10-21 at 20:20 CET with related MoM) we will 
discuss the way forward for possible technical solutions of implementing 
VLF.


3) Working group discussion of AOS FHEC
Based on the feedback received by DLR, NASA, and ESA, it is understood 
that the preference would be to keep the FHEC, but to resolve the virtual 
fill missing specification, and update the Green book with notes that 
avoid a misuse of the FHEC.
Under this agenda item, we will discuss the way forward for then providing 
SLP with a consolidated feedback for possible updates of BB 732 and GB 700 


Regards



ESA - European Space Agency
Ph.D. Andrea Modenini
TT&C Communications Systems Engineer 
TT&C and PDT Systems & Techniques Section (TEC-EST)
RF Systems Division
ESTEC
Keplerlaan 1, PO Box 299
NL-2200 AG Noordwijk, The Netherlands
andrea.modenini at esa.int | www.esa.int
T +31 71 56 53439, M +31 6 484 56 527



From:   Andrea Modenini/estec/ESA
To:     "Space Link Coding & Synchronization Working Group" 
<sls-cc at mailman.ccsds.org>
Cc:     Enrico Vassallo/esoc/ESA at ESA
Date:   24-09-21 09:42
Subject:        [SLS-CC] input paper list


Dear all,
 please find the input paper list. 

I will liaise with Enrico, for defining the final agenda in the following 
days.


Regards



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Modenini/estec/ESA] 

ESA - European Space Agency
Ph.D. Andrea Modenini
TT&C Communications Systems Engineer 
TT&C and PDT Systems & Techniques Section (TEC-EST)
RF Systems Division
ESTEC
Keplerlaan 1, PO Box 299
NL-2200 AG Noordwijk, The Netherlands
andrea.modenini at esa.int | www.esa.int
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From Andrea.Modenini at esa.int  Wed Oct  6 08:35:39 2021
From: Andrea.Modenini at esa.int (Andrea.Modenini at esa.int)
Date: Wed, 6 Oct 2021 10:35:39 +0200
Subject: [SLS-CC] C&S on 18th October - Agenda and inputs
In-Reply-To: <OF9054BB5F.1110B5E1-ONC1258761.002EA5BD-C1258764.0032601A@LocalDomain>
References: <OF503D8D6F.65C41B0D-ONC125875A.0029D0BB-C125875A.002A52CE@LocalDomain>
 <OF9054BB5F.1110B5E1-ONC1258761.002EA5BD-C1258764.0032601A@LocalDomain>
Message-ID: <38848_1633509340_615D5FDC_38848_966_1_OFE12E091F.0D9CB772-ONC1258766.002F0BD3-C1258766.002F35D0@esa.int>

a first batch of RIDs is already available (by ESA and NASA GSFC) for your 
review.
At agency review closure, I will upload the remaining ones (if any) and 
inform you accordinly

Regards

ESA - European Space Agency
Ph.D. Andrea Modenini
TT&C Communications Systems Engineer 
TT&C and PDT Systems & Techniques Section (TEC-EST)
RF Systems Division
ESTEC
Keplerlaan 1, PO Box 299
NL-2200 AG Noordwijk, The Netherlands
andrea.modenini at esa.int | www.esa.int
T +31 71 56 53439, M +31 6 484 56 527



From:   Andrea Modenini/estec/ESA
To:     "Space Link Coding & Synchronization Working Group" 
<sls-cc at mailman.ccsds.org>
Cc:     Enrico Vassallo/esoc/ESA at ESA, "Kazz, Greg J (JPL-312B)[JPL 
Employee]" <greg.j.kazz at jpl.nasa.gov>
Date:   04-10-21 11:10
Subject:        [SLS-CC] C&S on 18th October - Agenda and inputs


Dear all,
 please find enclosed the Agenda for the C&S WG meeting, to be held on 
18th October 2021, 14-18 (CET).
Inputs are in attachment, and (for records) can be found also at 
https://tinyurl.com/23m7e9vr 

Beyond inputs, we will have the following points:

1) Agency review RIDs
I'd like to do the RIDs disposition for 131.0 and 131.2 during this Fall 
meeting, for avoiding to call later a dedicated meeting.
Agency reviews will formally close on 8th October, thus leaving just 5 
working days for reviewing them. 
Since it is a limited time window, my proposal is that in then Fall 
meeting we will write dispositions, and then we will give some time for 
possible comments/objections, and obviously inform the RFM WG about the 
changes in the common book.
(RIDs will be available at  https://tinyurl.com/kdz5x5h7 )


2)  Working group discussion of Variable Length Frames 
Based on the outcomes of the SLP and C&S meeting we had on 30th September 
(see Greg's email on 01-10-21 at 20:20 CET with related MoM) we will 
discuss the way forward for possible technical solutions of implementing 
VLF.


3) Working group discussion of AOS FHEC
Based on the feedback received by DLR, NASA, and ESA, it is understood 
that the preference would be to keep the FHEC, but to resolve the virtual 
fill missing specification, and update the Green book with notes that 
avoid a misuse of the FHEC.
Under this agenda item, we will discuss the way forward for then providing 
SLP with a consolidated feedback for possible updates of BB 732 and GB 700 


Regards


[attachment "CS_inputs.zip" deleted by Andrea Modenini/estec/ESA] 
[attachment "SLS-CS-agenda-Fall 2021.docx" deleted by Andrea 
Modenini/estec/ESA] 
ESA - European Space Agency
Ph.D. Andrea Modenini
TT&C Communications Systems Engineer 
TT&C and PDT Systems & Techniques Section (TEC-EST)
RF Systems Division
ESTEC
Keplerlaan 1, PO Box 299
NL-2200 AG Noordwijk, The Netherlands
andrea.modenini at esa.int | www.esa.int
T +31 71 56 53439, M +31 6 484 56 527




From:   Andrea Modenini/estec/ESA
To:     "Space Link Coding & Synchronization Working Group" 
<sls-cc at mailman.ccsds.org>
Cc:     Enrico Vassallo/esoc/ESA at ESA
Date:   24-09-21 09:42
Subject:        [SLS-CC] input paper list


Dear all,
 please find the input paper list. 

I will liaise with Enrico, for defining the final agenda in the following 
days.


Regards



[attachment "SLS-CS-inputs-Fall 2021.docx" deleted by Andrea 
Modenini/estec/ESA] 

ESA - European Space Agency
Ph.D. Andrea Modenini
TT&C Communications Systems Engineer 
TT&C and PDT Systems & Techniques Section (TEC-EST)
RF Systems Division
ESTEC
Keplerlaan 1, PO Box 299
NL-2200 AG Noordwijk, The Netherlands
andrea.modenini at esa.int | www.esa.int
T +31 71 56 53439, M +31 6 484 56 527



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From Andrea.Modenini at esa.int  Mon Oct 11 07:16:56 2021
From: Andrea.Modenini at esa.int (Andrea.Modenini at esa.int)
Date: Mon, 11 Oct 2021 09:16:56 +0200
Subject: [SLS-CC] C&S on 18th October - Agenda and inputs
In-Reply-To: <OFE12E091F.0D9CB772-ONC1258766.002F0BD3-C1258766.002F3596@LocalDomain>
References: <OF503D8D6F.65C41B0D-ONC125875A.0029D0BB-C125875A.002A52CE@LocalDomain>
 <OF9054BB5F.1110B5E1-ONC1258761.002EA5BD-C1258764.0032601A@LocalDomain>
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Message-ID: <10554_1633936619_6163E4EB_10554_598_1_OF8665EF1C.266B5D66-ONC125876B.00278541-C125876B.00280126@esa.int>

Dear all,
 regarding agency reviews I have received only an additional RID by NASA 
JPL, while I was informed by the other agencies that they had no RIDs 
(thanks for letting me know!).
The full list of RIDs is available at  https://tinyurl.com/kdz5x5h7


Kind Regards,
Andrea


ESA - European Space Agency
Ph.D. Andrea Modenini
TT&C Communications Systems Engineer 
TT&C and PDT Systems & Techniques Section (TEC-EST)
RF Systems Division
ESTEC
Keplerlaan 1, PO Box 299
NL-2200 AG Noordwijk, The Netherlands
andrea.modenini at esa.int | www.esa.int
T +31 71 56 53439, M +31 6 484 56 527



From:   Andrea Modenini/estec/ESA
To:     "Space Link Coding & Synchronization Working Group" 
<sls-cc at mailman.ccsds.org>
Date:   06-10-21 10:35
Subject:        Re: [SLS-CC] C&S on 18th October - Agenda and inputs


a first batch of RIDs is already available (by ESA and NASA GSFC) for your 
review.
At agency review closure, I will upload the remaining ones (if any) and 
inform you accordinly

Regards

ESA - European Space Agency
Ph.D. Andrea Modenini
TT&C Communications Systems Engineer 
TT&C and PDT Systems & Techniques Section (TEC-EST)
RF Systems Division
ESTEC
Keplerlaan 1, PO Box 299
NL-2200 AG Noordwijk, The Netherlands
andrea.modenini at esa.int | www.esa.int
T +31 71 56 53439, M +31 6 484 56 527




From:   Andrea Modenini/estec/ESA
To:     "Space Link Coding & Synchronization Working Group" 
<sls-cc at mailman.ccsds.org>
Cc:     Enrico Vassallo/esoc/ESA at ESA, "Kazz, Greg J (JPL-312B)[JPL 
Employee]" <greg.j.kazz at jpl.nasa.gov>
Date:   04-10-21 11:10
Subject:        [SLS-CC] C&S on 18th October - Agenda and inputs


Dear all,
 please find enclosed the Agenda for the C&S WG meeting, to be held on 
18th October 2021, 14-18 (CET).
Inputs are in attachment, and (for records) can be found also at 
https://tinyurl.com/23m7e9vr 

Beyond inputs, we will have the following points:

1) Agency review RIDs
I'd like to do the RIDs disposition for 131.0 and 131.2 during this Fall 
meeting, for avoiding to call later a dedicated meeting.
Agency reviews will formally close on 8th October, thus leaving just 5 
working days for reviewing them. 
Since it is a limited time window, my proposal is that in then Fall 
meeting we will write dispositions, and then we will give some time for 
possible comments/objections, and obviously inform the RFM WG about the 
changes in the common book.
(RIDs will be available at  https://tinyurl.com/kdz5x5h7 )


2)  Working group discussion of Variable Length Frames 
Based on the outcomes of the SLP and C&S meeting we had on 30th September 
(see Greg's email on 01-10-21 at 20:20 CET with related MoM) we will 
discuss the way forward for possible technical solutions of implementing 
VLF.


3) Working group discussion of AOS FHEC
Based on the feedback received by DLR, NASA, and ESA, it is understood 
that the preference would be to keep the FHEC, but to resolve the virtual 
fill missing specification, and update the Green book with notes that 
avoid a misuse of the FHEC.
Under this agenda item, we will discuss the way forward for then providing 
SLP with a consolidated feedback for possible updates of BB 732 and GB 700 


Regards


[attachment "CS_inputs.zip" deleted by Andrea Modenini/estec/ESA] 
[attachment "SLS-CS-agenda-Fall 2021.docx" deleted by Andrea 
Modenini/estec/ESA] 
ESA - European Space Agency
Ph.D. Andrea Modenini
TT&C Communications Systems Engineer 
TT&C and PDT Systems & Techniques Section (TEC-EST)
RF Systems Division
ESTEC
Keplerlaan 1, PO Box 299
NL-2200 AG Noordwijk, The Netherlands
andrea.modenini at esa.int | www.esa.int
T +31 71 56 53439, M +31 6 484 56 527




From:   Andrea Modenini/estec/ESA
To:     "Space Link Coding & Synchronization Working Group" 
<sls-cc at mailman.ccsds.org>
Cc:     Enrico Vassallo/esoc/ESA at ESA
Date:   24-09-21 09:42
Subject:        [SLS-CC] input paper list


Dear all,
 please find the input paper list. 

I will liaise with Enrico, for defining the final agenda in the following 
days.


Regards



[attachment "SLS-CS-inputs-Fall 2021.docx" deleted by Andrea 
Modenini/estec/ESA] 

ESA - European Space Agency
Ph.D. Andrea Modenini
TT&C Communications Systems Engineer 
TT&C and PDT Systems & Techniques Section (TEC-EST)
RF Systems Division
ESTEC
Keplerlaan 1, PO Box 299
NL-2200 AG Noordwijk, The Netherlands
andrea.modenini at esa.int | www.esa.int
T +31 71 56 53439, M +31 6 484 56 527




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From Andrea.Modenini at esa.int  Tue Oct 26 08:12:01 2021
From: Andrea.Modenini at esa.int (Andrea.Modenini at esa.int)
Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2021 10:12:01 +0200
Subject: [SLS-CC] Fall meeting 2021 - draft MoM and review of draft papers
Message-ID: <30797_1635235925_6177B854_30797_35_1_OF812A36A3.411D2BF6-ONC125877A.002C33FB-C125877A.002D0BB8@esa.int>

Dear all,
 please find enclosed the draft MoM for Fall meeting 2021, and the updated 
draft for the TM Randomizer, and VCM docs (following comments during the 
meeting).

Please let me know if you have any comments by 3rd November, EOB.

After that, as agreed, I will issue two resolutions, one for Agency review 
of the Randomiser, and one for publication of the VCM technical 
corrigendum.


Regards



 

ESA - European Space Agency
Ph.D. Andrea Modenini
TT&C Communications Systems Engineer 
TT&C and PDT Systems & Techniques Section (TEC-EST)
RF Systems Division
ESTEC
Keplerlaan 1, PO Box 299
NL-2200 AG Noordwijk, The Netherlands
andrea.modenini at esa.int | www.esa.int
T +31 71 56 53439, M +31 6 484 56 527
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From Andrea.Modenini at esa.int  Tue Oct 26 08:23:00 2021
From: Andrea.Modenini at esa.int (Andrea.Modenini at esa.int)
Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2021 10:23:00 +0200
Subject: [SLS-CC] RIDs disposition for 131.2-B and 131.0-B and SLS resolution
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Dear Ignacio,
 with reference to Agency reviews for 131.0 and 131.2, please find 
enclosed the RID dispositions.

I kindly ask a resolution for publication of these two books, and attach 
the RID disposition for Tom's implementation.


Kind Regards,
Andrea





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Ph.D. Andrea Modenini
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